A podcast about the dark side of artists, creatives, intellectuals and the people who made history and continue to move culture.

From @kevinkautzman and @bradkelly with psychedelic portraits by @pinealcolada. Theme music by MookFish/EZ Lisnin

Other Podcasts

Rare Candy: We talk the state of publishing & literature, artificial intelligence, and much else.

Matt Pegas’ Black Album Podcast: Matt and I go deep on the Tarot. Elemental symbology, what the tarot does to your life, and the magic in everything.

New Books Network: Kendall Dinniene and I talked House of Sleep and upcoming projects.

Forest of Symbols: The Chariot & The Passenger: We talk tarot in BLOOD MERIDIAN, Art of Darkness, my short story “The Bung Plug of the Void” and more.

Astral Flight Simulator: Kevin Kautzman (Art of Darkness co-host) and I strap into the Astral Flight Simulator to talk realism, publishing, Burroughs, and the Artofdarkpod secret recipe.

System of Systems w/Adam Lehrer: Adam and I discuss HOUSE OF SLEEP, sci-fi, Phillip K. Dick, and more, as well as the opioid epidemic, Jim Jones and the People's Temple, and Baz Luhrmann's Elvis biopic.

The Missing Peace w/ Trish Mo: We talk Tarot, psychism, the power of reading, and what it means to try and stay creative.

Beyond Zero: Ben and I talk the writing process, inspirations behind HOUSE OF SLEEP, and my must-reads.

New Write Episode 19: Oracular Spectacular : We talk HOUSE OF SLEEP, the potential for a psychedelic revolution, and the importance of ritual.

No Future w/Will Samson: We talk Johnny Cash

In Search of Reality 086: Talking the loss of a shared reality, psychedelic healing, and much else besides.

Scarlet Thread Society: Talking Tarot history, interpretations, readings with Dexter De La Paz

Forest of Symbols: Hanged Man, Diving Man: Brad Kelly on Writing, Tarot and Ayahuasca

Lost Explorers Club: With a reading of “The Bung Plug of the Void” and a discussion afterward about the story and the craft of writing.

In Search of Reality Episode 052: Intuitive dreams, tarot, and the momma matrix most mysterious

Get This Podcast. Episode: “The Bottomless Dream” Actor Michael Bakkensen and writer Brad Kelly join the show to talk Shakespeare by way of Harold Bloom, Michael’s experience studying under the great scholar at Yale, the invention of the human and more.

Get This Podcast. Episode: “Through the Mirror” Author and friend to the show Brad Kelly joins Get This to talk Philip K Dick’s apocalyptic Gnostic visions, R Crumb’s treatment of the same, glitches in the simulation, Coronavirus and more.

Get This Podcast. Episode: “Hauntology” Novelist, Michener Center for Writers alumnus and erstwhile podcast co-host Brad Kelly joins Kevin to discuss the first season of True Detective, Blood Meridian (of course), his latest writing project and more.